Straight Out
La Shawn Barber, in her excellent post, running up to the Rice testimony before the 9/11 Commission, drops this little grenade in its midst: “Liberals should just be honest and admit their agenda is not about blacks or women or ‘the poor.’ It's about the propagation of an ungodly worldview by any means necessary.”
What she said.
Thanks for the link, Juliette!
Posted by: La Shawn Barber | April 09, 2004 at 09:50 AM
KA-BOOM!
Posted by: Morty (NTBCWM) | April 09, 2004 at 10:01 AM
Juliette, I meant to thank you a few weeks back for turning me on to La Shawn's blog. It's A++!
Posted by: Ith | April 09, 2004 at 12:21 PM
So that I fully understand your meaning, do you mean "ungodly" as in "without God" or as in "against God"?
Differentiating liberal versus Liberal (or left-wing, as I prefer to call them), I am liberal as far as thinking that God belongs in the church and not in the government because then you have to pick which God you want running the government (see the radical Islamists for where that particular path leads), but I also do not believe that the government should be against God. Not all those who think God shouldn't be degraded and limited by codifying Him into a government are evil.
Posted by: Jack | April 09, 2004 at 02:58 PM
Killing and/or the "right to kill" unborn babies is evil, by any god's standards. And if you want to say that being a Christ follower will lead to homicidal, psychopathic Christian suicide bombers, I certaintly can't stop you.
Posted by: La Shawn Barber | April 09, 2004 at 03:11 PM
La Shawn's blog is the BOMB - one of my favorites (its how I got linked here BTW). If you want thought provoking go check it out.
But be prepared for the potential that your stereotypes may be challenged and the writing may keep you up late thinkin' steada drinkin'.
Posted by: Calliope | April 09, 2004 at 03:29 PM
Jack,
Render unto Caesar…, render unto God…
Posted by: baldilocks | April 09, 2004 at 08:10 PM
You always have the best posts...very informative. Thanks for the link!
Posted by: Donna | April 09, 2004 at 08:48 PM
La Shawn is dead on. It's deeply grievous that blacks buy into liberal "ideas."
Posted by: Helen | April 09, 2004 at 09:14 PM
I agree with you totally. I linked to this blog. Liberals are using the poor and minorities as voting cattle to implement their agenda.
Posted by: Ricky Vandal | April 10, 2004 at 05:39 AM
civil rights is a "liberal" idea. fair wages is a "liberal" idea. healthy working conditions is a "liberal" idea. protecting your right to free speech on a blog is a "liberal" idea. your historical perspective is quite clouded by your belief that life begins at conception.
please consider the case of portugal. women and nurses are being incarcerated for up to eight years for performing an abortion (78% of the population there now believes abortion should be legal). is this the kind of society you want? "liberals" do not like abortion, that is a conservative/fundamentalist lie. but the incarceration of women will not save babies (the same way the mass incarceration of black men did not stop the drug trade). and if you believe it will then you are blinded by your idealogy.
the term "ungodly worldview" is wildy ignorant and is mostly a product of the imagination of fundamentalist radio and conservative politicos who wish to manipulate the flock into conservative principles. if you wish i will lay out a godless worldview that is far from "ungodly." i know this might be tough to swallow but the two concepts are not mutually exclusive.
your blog is provocative and that is good.
peace/love barry
Posted by: cereal breath | April 10, 2004 at 08:56 AM
CB: Simply making a statement opposite from mine or LaShawn's doesn't prove it to be true. Neither does providing false analogies to back up your statement (black people selling drugs versus female nurses performing abortions).
Whether the practice of jailing abortionists stops the practice or not has no bearing on its morality.
Also, since you are certainly ignorant of the sum total of my knowledge and experience, you have no way of judging whether I am ignorant or not.
And, lastly, the only fundamentalist radio I've ever listened to is Pacifica radio.
Posted by: baldilocks | April 10, 2004 at 09:25 AM
Shelby Steele says the liberal agenda is guilty white redemptionism. I tend to agree. Steele's excellent. You'd love his discussions of "the appearance of virtue."
Great blog, btw.
Posted by: maura | April 10, 2004 at 10:11 AM
Maura: I read Steele's "The Content of Our Character" way back when it was first published (1991) and found myself agreeing with nearly everything he said. Though I remained a Liberal Democrat for some time after that, the seeds were planted then.
Posted by: baldilocks | April 10, 2004 at 10:25 AM
ok. i'll slow down. i got a little worked up there and my thoughts were somewhat scattered. i have a few questions regarding the content of your post.
1. what does "ungodly worldview" mean? non-christian? does this mean only christians can have "godly worldviews"?
2. what "liberals" are you referring to specifically? or are you/barber just demonizing the entire concept of "liberal" because you percieve them to be godless?
3. i read barber's post and there is nothing even coming close to any evidence for her claims, yet you criticize my post for being contrarian and not containing facts.
4. is it possible to be "liberal" and be genuinely concerned about justice for all peoples?
5. can someone be an atheist and a moral person with sound ethics?
6. the abortion argument kind of coincided with a response to another post and i should have made that clear.
peace/love barry
Posted by: cereal breath | April 10, 2004 at 11:55 AM