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Last I checked, Mfume was forced out because he felt that the African-American voting block needed to reach out to the Republicans so that the Democrats would stop taking them for granted. Bond didn't like that foray into bipartisanship.

"...and some bar girl in a foreign land who laughed at their equipment share an ethnicity?"

Your closer to reality than you think. As one who spent 20 years (USN ret) sailing in and out of the Philippines, and has resided here for 3 1/2 years I believe the above quote hits the mark.

The "open season" paragraph is priceless.

I have to disagree, Baldilocks. Among my (white) right-wing Christian friends, I don't see bigotry or any tolerance for it. Among my (left-wing, progressive) fellow lawyers, I see a lot of "soft" bigotry and a sneering acceptance of the "politically correct" view on race. I don't think there's an equivalance between the left and right when it comes to racial intolerance today.

Every so often, Colbert I. King presents what has arrived in his email/mail box. Courtland Milloy used to do it more but hasn't done it in awhile. Richard Cohen mentions it every once in awhile.

What they presented wasn't pretty.

So, she gets hate mail. What's the big deal?
Really.
What makes her special?

A couple of years ago I was running a MS Frontpage site and I had a post about a vile attack on Ann Coulter.
Noemie Emery wrote in The Party of Porn:
Last June, Ann Coulter, a stunning blonde lawyer and activist, wrote a
short column for George magazine about the social life or lack thereof in
Washington....As columns go, it was a pleasant bit of fluff and filler; perhaps too
innocuous. It was a shock, therefore, to read the "response" to it that
ran in Salon magazine. Titled Ann of a Thousand Lays (seemingly, on no
grounds whatsoever), it offered to help her in her "quest for tube steak"
with ten useful hints such as these: "Quit injecting yourself with your
own urine," "Buy a vibrator," "Stop being a mean bitch," and "Get your
head out of your ass." "I think you need to wrack up some quick orgasms,"
the Salon writer added. "There's one called the 'rabbit' that gets you
going from several different angles at once, if you know what I mean."

Lovely people, these leftists.

Heck...stuff like this is not merely relegated to the Ann Coulters and Michelle Maulkin's. When one conservative had the gaul to post a challenge the LLL's over at Kos's website to contribute to SOA fundraising drive. You should have seen the caca hit the fan. And said "caca" was pretty darn foul by anyone standards.

It's not just racial intolerance, it's intolerance to any POV that doesn't confrom with their views.

My experience (as a Puerto Rican woman) is that the "liberal" mindset is ready to embrace what they consider diversity as long as the "minority" toes the victimization line.

The Democrats were the party of slavery, Jim Crow and the KKK. They maintained the "solid south" through the '60s by championing segregation.

The mask of political correctness, multiculturalism, diversity and sensitivity was simply a political ploy to get a grip on minority voting blocs. Now that the stranglehold is loosening, and more people are escaping the plantation, that mask is beginning to slip.

Check it out:

http://www.mediachannel.org/views/dissector/affalert309.shtml

Such behavior, even in private, would never be tolerated among the conservatives I know.

It has become more and more apparant to me recently given our experiences (my wife is a Filipina from a good family who was never promiscuous in any way) that almost all Americans view Filipina's as either ex or current whores. My wife looks Chinese so its okay until they find out where she's from and then its - boom - "oh, so you met in the bar...(read as "ah, you're a whore!). White women seem to have a particular problem in this area and I would my last dollar that most of the comments against Michelle Malkin come from liberal white women. Funny, not even one of these commie b#t#hes read Michelle's bio where it says she was born in Philadelphia. Stupid.
I'm not surprised at the vehemance of the commentary, either. Baldilocks, I'll bet you get a lot of crap you don't share as even reading it twice to take the time to comment on it is too depressing.

Darkstar,
It's not really "special" for conservative commentators of color to get this kind of mail. La Shawn complains of it all the time. Just out of curiosity, do you get much of this type stuff?

Juliette,
Do you get much of this?

No, thank God. I suspect that some are afraid that I'll hunt them down and snap their neck.

More likely, it's because I have an excellent email filter. :-)

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Darkstar: I don't see how you got from me that Malkin is, somehow, "special" because she receives hatemail.

These examples of the hatemail she receives, however, are *quite* special; special in the manner in which I've discussed.

All I can say is thank God for the likes of Baldilocks, Michelle and LaShawn--and the obviously growing number of minority conservatives. As for the leftist racists, they will only reap what they sow. And as for the especially sick one who attacked Michelle, I only wish I could learn his identity and deal with him personally.

It should not be any surprise that some liberals are extremely racists. This group supports racist policies such as quotas, and set asides. They do not believe any person of color can make it without their help. It burns them up to see successful people of color who make it on their own merit and are not apologetic about it.

Uh, speaking for the entire left-wing (as I often do) I feel I have to point some things out.

Firstly, some of the most vulgar and disgusting things ever uttered by a human being have come out of Ann Coulters mouth.

"My only regret with Timothy McVeigh is he did not go to the New York Times Building."

"This man should not be allowed near the president with a loaded gun. At the least, he's an immature nut. At worst, he's a ticking time bomb, in a simmering rage at America's supposed mistreatment of Muslims.” - talking about the airlines' mistreatment of an Arab-American Secret Service agent

"People like you caused us to lose that war." - talking to a disabled Vietnam vet

And Michelle Malkin? Her claim to fame is writing a book that not only defends the incredibly criminal and immoral national policy of imprisoning US citizens in Japanese Internment Camps during WWII, but drawing the corollary that we should now do the same to Muslims!

Vulgar.

So I’m sorry if some libby called them bad names. I guess as long as you don’t used a bad word, you aren’t vulgar in this country.

Secondly, we have Mark doing his Winston Smith best to tell half the story:

The Democrats were the party of slavery, Jim Crow and the KKK. They maintained the "solid south" through the '60s by championing segregation.

Hmmm, if he were to finish that thought to the historically accurate conclusion:

and in the late 60s and early 70s, when the National Democratic Party refused to fund campaigns for racist Southern Democrats, they left the party, and were welcomed with open arms, by the GOP.

Finally, all this talk about “left-wing” racism, I’ll only say this:

What Muhammad Ali said about the Viet-Cong, I can say about Liberal Democrats.

Were that it were true in my contact with Republicans. Were that it were true….

hatemail is shit..but it comes with the territory..i am sure liberals get a whole ton (geraldine ferraro got calling her dago and all that)
when ur a public figure , even non political u end up getting hate mail. humans as a species are quite vicious, which makes u wonder at times if we are really above animals

Baldi and Monte, my point wasn't clear.

1. People who are considered "left" also get hate mail.

2. I included white writers to cover the bases, but now I'll comment on Black writers. They have received some hate filled crap as well. Courtland Milloy and Colbert I. King are writers who are Black. Occasionally, one racist reader of King gets a public response to the racist rantings.

I'll add to the mix Joe Madison, Jesse Jackson, and Kwaisi Mfume. They have all stated they receive racist and foul hate mail.

So, again, what makes her special?

Oh, and I have received hate mail.

Darkstar:

The first "special" thing is that I hadn't read these yet (went to your site to get the links). The second "special" thing--with Malkin being a *woman* of Filipino descent--is the sexually perverse nature of the email she receives.

Again, *she's* not special, but the people who send her these types of emails are.

What makes her special? What makes Colbert I. King special, or Courtland Milloy or Richard Cohen special? Is your point that only liberals can talk about the hate mail they receive? Is your point that every time somebody links to a conservative who posts about the hate mail they receive that they have to mention that lots of liberals receive hate mail too?

Malkin's post is current. I note that on your blog, the King, Milloy and Cohen links only go to the WaPo home pages for those columnists, indicating that their hate mail columns must not be recent.

On the sexual perverse nature, I wonder what hate mail Donna Brazil as received, or Lani Guiner, or ...

Agreed that the people sending the emails are foul/special, however you want to define them.


Lastly, while her's is current, it doesn't matter, does it? Hate e/post/voice mail is hate. It doesn't matter to me, nor should it matter to anyone, if the filth is coming from "the left" or "the right".

Darkstar:

If Brazile, et al. publicize it, it can and should be publicly condemned. Have they?

Russell: I'm not ignoring your contribution. I'm considering responding to some of your points in a post.

No worries. :-)

Brazile, not that I know of. Guiner had said it in passing.

Was it condemned? No. But, they didn't make a big deal of it. In the cases that I mentioned, they referenced it in a larger context. Well, except for Jesse Jackson.

If Armstrong Williams and Rush Limbaugh are right in saying, or alluding, that it happens "all of the time", then they should both drop the dime to get it out there.

Come on, prominent Democrat/Leftist pundits and politicians who are good and reasonable. Don’t be so hesitant to verbally slap down and turn out those in your midst who only bring discord to the political dialogue.

great sentiment..i must say though we could start the ball rolling by denouncing ann coulter. she is a vicious human being

I'm considering responding to some of your points in a post.

{hubris}Glad to know my well reasoned posts motivate you to thoughtfully ponder the nature of your core-belief structure{/hubris}

;)

Seriously, I am writing a post about vulgarity, it's true nature in American Society and what we actually mistake for vulgarity.

Suffice to say, I'm currently immersed in the archives of the Congressional Record.

Looking forward to your post.

Tupper is a prima facia case proving that leftists are born without the gene that allows for logical comparisons.

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