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September 21, 2007

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SIGH....

Jason Whitlock got it wrong:

No one mentions that Mychal Bell's [a juvenile at time of the incident in which six black students beat up a lone white student, he’s the second youngest member of the Jena Six] clueless public defender [who called no witnesses in his defense] was black.

Al Sharpton, Michael Baisden, Tom Joyner, and others have mentioned the clueless public defender and that the PD was Black.

Bells priors have also been mentioned.

No one mentions that Bell's father acknowledged he moved back to Louisiana in February (after seven years in Dallas) to supervise his son because of the "Jena Six" mess.

Tom Joyner not only mentioned it but interviewed Bell's father.

But those facts shouldn't stand in the way. Neither should the fact that Sharpton and Jackson were very late and that it was bloggers, broadcast email, and radio that did more to get things going than those two. Sharpton has been saying so in radio interviews over the past few days. Sharpton has actually given credit to Baisden.

In short, a schoolyard beef with racial overtones spilled over onto the town and, instead of the adults (the white school officials, the white legal authorities, the black could-have-been jurors and the black and white parents) smothering it in its infancy by coming down hard on all of the juveniles, said adults abdicated their duties.

So let me understand. After the noose incident, Black parents got together, went to the school to complain, and the school or school board blew them off, but they are to blame?

I got into many fights when I was younger, and my parents didn't find out about them or found out afterwards. I bet that's typical.

The comments about Jackson, Sr. and Obama are on point.

So let me understand. After the noose incident, Black parents got together, went to the school to complain, and the school or school board blew them off, but they are to blame?
Yes. The board is to blame.

No, you stated the Black parents didn't act like adults, but when they tried to follow the rules, the board didn't do its job.

That's one failure point.

If you go to the Tom Joyner web site and listen to Al Sharpton's commentary on Wednesday, you will hear him say that the Jena 6 should be punished because the violence was wrong. But because the media hates him and loves his quotes, they pick and choose what he states. But what he said on the Tom Joyner Morning Show, isn't making news.

Bell isn't an angel, but does that mean the other 5 should rot?

Jason Whitlock is flat out wrong.

No. I. Didn't.

I said that the black parents who "fail to have any input into the lives of their children or to reign in the wayward among them," are the problem, i.e. Bell's parents. I didn't mention the parents you specify at all because I didn't know about them until after I put up the post and started reading this site.

And, actually they should all pay the price for being little thuglets. The white kids too. And that's the problem of course. (I did mention this.) Please stop jerking your knee.

:sigh: I can see why what I said was confusing. I will tweak it.

Excellently stated, Baldilocks.

Thanks, but you might not think so on that *other* topic.

six against one is never justified. Putting the boot to a downed opponent is never justified.
There was no white uprising after the Bird killing trial and verdict. Justice can be a bitch, but if Jesse wants to replace justice with mobs, he needs to check the census first.

The actual events are STILL not being fully and correctly reported in the MSM. Things are more complicated than they appear. I still haven't found any good guys. I'm still glad I don't live in Jena, and I feel sorry for most of those who do and have to put up with the media/activist onslaught from all directions.

Michael van der Gallienne has an excellent post on some of the unreported details. One that digs down past much of the knee-jerkery and corrects some of the ongoing factual errors in the coverage.

Tully,

There's a post in the hopper.

B. Hussein Obama represents the last possibility of a black man being POTUS. Though a radical liberal, he's done a fabulous job fooling rich upper class whites like my in-laws into believing he's some kind of messiah. The MSM has been quite a help in this as well, though.

Once Mexicans come into their own demographically in this country, the chance Obama had will be gone forever. Mexicans and Central Americans don't like (usually hate) blacks and will wrest all of the political power out of their hands, as has happened in most of Los Angeles. Indeed, the country will likely return to a form of Jim Crowism that Mexico has and that the U.S. had in the 60s.

I hope Obama gives it his best shot and doesn't wade into this moronic convergence. He seems to have gotten most of what he has on merit, at least.

Good essay.

From that link:

- The speech given by Reed Walters that included the now infamous statement “I can end your life with the stroke of a pen” was not given to a group of black students. It was given during a speech to the entire student body in an assembly called by the school’s principal to calm a community that was pulling their children out of school because there were two fights one day with racial overtones.

Sorry, but people have been saying it was an address to all students. But they have been saying that the "stroke of the pen" comment was made to the Black people at the address. It's been said he pointed or turned towards them.

Many do agree that the charges seem wrong, but they also know the criminal history of the boys referred to as the “Jena Six.”

So far, only Bell's past has been put out there. If all have a criminal history, why haven't their's been put out there?

Lastly, you can even go to the Tom Joyner website in the "In Case You Missed It" section to check Sharpton's comments. He, and others, are saying they should get time but that the charges seem overblown.

He, and others, are saying they should get time but that the charges seem overblown.

As have I, DarkStar. The facts I have seen suggest simple assault and battery as being appropriate, with sentence enhancement for any with prior convictions for violent crimes. Which,a s far as I know, would just be Mychal Bell.

What I've seen does suggest that the students of both races at that school did a bang-up job of proving that people determined to not get along, don't. And that a minority of idiots bent on promoting hate can bring ruin down on an entire community.

I still haven't found any good guys.

Neither have I found any good guys in this, but people raining down disgust on Sharpton and Jackson, Sr., are just as ill informed.

IMO, they are excuse making. Sharpton and Jackson have little to no power in the Black community and I think many conservatives know it.

So -- who chose Jena to be the bait-ball for the MSM, and why? Is it so we sofisteecates outside the Deep South can point our fingers and say that Racism is alive and well *there* amongst the goobers and hicks? What -- nothing like this happens in the Glorious Kingdom of New York, or L.A., or Philly, or Chicago?

As much as I like touch-points for larger discussions, I am made uncomfortable when we anoint actual flesh-and-blood people, or in this case, whole communities, as Talking Points for "the rest of us."

I'm going to look around my home county for similar incidents and reactions. I wonder if I'll find any in an area of 300,000+ people.

And -- I guess -- I will thank my lucky stars that Jena seems to be news because the MSM has a hard time finding such incidences to blow up out of all proportion.

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